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King was concerned about flooding impacts on existing recreation buildings on the east side of 105th Avenue, if development takes place on the west side.

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According to one of the background reports, there only will be demand for 303,000 sq. feet of commercial space by 2017 assuming malls planned in Pitt Meadows and on Kwantlen First Nations land on Lougheed Highway don't proceed.

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What is the environmental impact on growing field crops, asked Hogarth.

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"We have a lot of facilities that we've already paid for. I just don't think it's a good idea."

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"The Agricultural Land Commission is going to laugh in your face and they are going to say, 'What are you thinking?' " said Coun. Craig Speirs.

Will all the stores be built in a short period of time? he asked. "I question that."

She favoured Scenario 2 because it involves landowners who can won't get involved unless it is viable. She didn't want to send forward plans that wouldn't work economically.

Maple Ridge council tweaks Albion shopping plans

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Daykin said the scenario is a 15 to 20 year plan.

last fall, and create something for the whole community, she said.

Those features, borrowed from Scenario 1, would go on the east side of 105th Avenue in the Scenario 2 motion proposed by Coun. Cheryl Ashlie. That would leave most of the west side of 105th Avenue, where SmartCentres mall company owns several acres, available for commercial development.

Most of the flats (89 per cent) is within the Agricultural Land Reserve, although soil conditions make farming difficult. However, according to the consultant's report, the commission would be unlikely to approve taking land out of the reserve on the west side of 105th because of the high quality soil.

Maple Ridge council wants shopping in a big way in the Albion flats, but it wants to see what you think about its plan first before getting feedback from the Agricultural Land Commission.

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Ashlie's proposal, though, opened a familiar division on council. Of the 310 acres that comprise the Albion flats, Scenario 2 calls for the preservation of only 1.25 acres of that for agriculture. Currently, about 219 acres are designated for farming.

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Ashlie said that what's proposed for the area has to be economically viable. What if a hog or turkey farm operation started on the farmland, she asked.

After that, the scenario comes back to council for further tuning before a formal application for exclusion, which will require a public hearing. Decisions from the ALC will then determine the plan that the district will write for the area.

Council settled on Scenario 2 Monday, an option that calls for up 1.8 million sq. feet of commercial/industrial space in the flats along Lougheed Highway at 105th Avenue. It also agreed to add a few features from the other three scenarios, such as livestock barns, an agricultural training and research barn and a brew pub.

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She wanted all four scenarios, two that proposed minimal development on the west side of 105th, sent to the ALC for comment, as recommended by the consultant.

"We can come with a plan, but at the end of the day, it's up to whoever owns that property to fulfill that plan," Coun. Judy Dueck said later.

Land on the east side, though, is more fragmented and with poorer soils, the report notes, so the chances of exclusion are greater.

105th Avenue and said Scenario 2 will bring "death to the downtown."

Speirs, along with Coun. Linda King, voted against the proposal at every step.

By 2025, there only would be demand for up to 524,000 sq. ft.

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Ashlie's proposal also included an expanded recreation centre, including a sports field, as outlined in Scenario 4, on the east side of 105th, while Coun. Al Hogarth Nike Air Force Juan added that the plan should include alternative agricultural practices, such as rooftop gardens, environmental practices and mitigation for loss of agricultural land.

Any mixed used should take place near 240th Street, which would be a good place for a brew pub, he added.

"It's not respectful to put that kind of scenario forward."

Details of Scenario 2 will be rolled out to the public in a few weeks at an information meeting, then will be sent on to the land commission for comments.

Council, though, rejected those two last week, considered Scenarios 2 and 4 on Monday, then opted for the former.

Possible congestion at the intersections of Lougheed Highway at Kanaka Way, 105th Avenue and 240th Street also bothered her.

to the commission about what the district will require that will help agriculture, in returning for removing land from the agricultural reserve, said Coun. Mike Morden.

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